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Klb1980
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello - I have spent the last few years fishing the irb and inlet. I finally got a boat that i feel comfortable taking outside and wanted to see if any of you guys could give me some guidence on trolling for mahi. I need to know if i need a special license, size limit, trolling speed, distance i need to be offshore, what to use for bait, how to rig everything. I am a complete newbie to this type of fishing. I have learned alot from this forum,and was hoping some of you guys that fish this way could give me some pointers. Thanks in advance!!
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Parker23
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I need to get the same info I want to try my self for mahi? I do know that you need NO license other than the fishing license you need for fishing and there is NO size limit? I also know that they are top water fish or they bit bait under weed line or and kind of cover on the water. As to bait I can not help you or me? I have a out board 250 and need to know how fast to troll? I ask some one if I could use live spot and they said that he through that the mahi woukd bit if I used a balloon to keep the spot from going deep? Maybe someone can give us some pointers.
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Albemarle305
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Get a Reel job, go Sportfishing

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Parker23, you don't need fishing licence, you are in federal waters, Buy a map, fish from lighship, to massesys all around the lumps, troll around 5-6 knots, troll artificials or, ballyhoos.. expect to fish about 20+ miles!!!
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Halfhitch
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This request has Chief Mikey all over it. I'm sure he will add some more information once he sees this thread.

I don't know of anyone who loves to fish for the "tasties" like he does.

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Rm2
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I would get a federal permit. https://hmspermits.noaa.gov/InitialApp.asp
It's only $20 and good for a year.
You'll be fishing in the same areas BFT may roam and it would be shame to get caught without the permit if you happen to land one and not release it.
I think MD has some special tagging requirements too.
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Klb1980
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Albemarle thanks for the info - how far do you let your line out from the back of the boat, do you put any weight on or do you free float the baits on the top of the water? How do you rig the baits with hooks? Thanks Again
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Albemarle305
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To a newby, I wouldn't even begin to tell you how to wire a ballyhoo over the internet (even though it is pretty simple) YOu can buy ballyhoo rigs with the springs on them to rig them. They usually have weights. I never troll just for mahi, i target tuna but my flatlines are closer then most people run, but they get hit just about every trip out. I run them about 15-20ft back, I usually use always have a cederplug chain or a mo lure chain on the flats, and ballys everywhere else... can't go wrong, as the lines go out from the center of you boat to the sides they will normally be the ones that you are sending out further off riggers or whatever you may have.. best thing to do is get someone to go with you or, you go with someone, offshore fishing isn't something people can learn, walking into a bait shop and asking what to use, how to use it, and where to fish.. doesn't work like that...

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Pettee
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am sure that the same goes for up here as it did for catching them in the keys, but ALWAYS have a pitch rig ready. Keep one hooked, toss out the pitch bait, hook the second. Always keep one in the water and you can just keep picking them off.

I always trolled Billy Baits as my go to lure, pitch bait was nothing more than cut hoo or finger mullet on a light outfit - one 10lb and one w/20 lb. Almost always went with the 10lb for the sheer fun of it.
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Pettee wrote on Wednesday July 07 2010 - 05:11 pm:

I am sure that the same goes for up here as it did for catching them in the keys, but ALWAYS have a pitch rig ready. Keep one hooked, toss out the pitch bait, hook the second. Always keep one in the water and you can just keep picking them off.



That works up here too. At least it did back when I used to run offshore.
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Don't touch it twice, unless it feels good!

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Mahi seem to me to be the dumbest fish, but I am told that they have such a strong appetite that it makes them appear dumb. We have always found them hanging around floating debris, lobster balls, or along weed lines. I will never forget waking up after a nap from an all nighter in the canyons and there was this ginormous school of them. we got tired of catching them and left to find some larger sport fish. I did not understand leaving them until we started landing 6 ft wahoos and white marlin.
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Bocky57
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The best fish to catch is the one on the end of your line

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I would try one of the charter boats out of IR or OC and learn from them and watch.Or run down to Cape hatteras,there is a great Dolphin bite going on now I think.Boats will just run out after them.Check out YouTube also..there are some videos on there that may help.Its kinda hard to explain everything on here...Good Luck
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Mahi are a suicidal fish. Seams like if you get one to bite the others think "oh cool, I'm going eat that too".
Here's a vid I shot awhile ago playing with some chicken's on light tackle.
http://www.saltfish.net/videos/RM2Mahi.wmv
Rob IR Delaware
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Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice video RM
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We were in the WASH. one day and past the lobster ball 3 times trolling, saw mahi under it everytime we past, When we had no hit, we would change lures (most were bailers with some bigger ones) Finally back up to it with light gear and cut up some ballyhoo, I think after they got fired up we ended with 40+ off the one Lobsterball, even caught one one lunch meat.. I would say for the most part sucide, but that day they wouldn't hit a troll lure!!

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Who in the world trolls for Mahi?...Just find something floating and load up!! Trolling for them would be a waste of time, energy and fuel!

The bitches are right under the wood!!
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More_ice wrote on Thursday July 08 2010 - 10:57 pm:

Who in the world trolls for Mahi?...Just find something floating and load up!! Trolling for them would be a waste of time, energy and fuel!

The bitches are right under the wood!!




I agree - but trolling between the floating stuff can, and will, produce. If you want to try it the simple way,m get some cedar plugs in different sizes and colors. Troll them at 6 kts or less and you should pull a few Mahi
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Here was a great producing lure when I used to troll for them. If you need help catching them, I will be glad to go out with you Upload
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The easiest way to go fishing for Mahi, is to go fishing for tuna. The mahi will find you.... If you can get out to where Albe305 said, you'll do just fine. Almost anything will work on mahi...

Good luck
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I NEED MORE TIME TO FISH...RETIRE SOON?????

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Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ROB....GREAT VIDEO.....!!!!!!!!!!
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Pass it on

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Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea Mark, I must be slipping, took my boss telling me about your post to get to it.


Kory and Tom, it's a pretty easy method and doesn't take a lot of fancy tackle, just some inexpensive lures decent light tackle rods and good eye's.

First you need water temps in the mid 70's, clear to blue water and some structure (floating objects, buoys, Sargasso weed, whatever). I've seen hundreds of them gather around one broken 5 gallon black bucket and I love blue pallets. Keep your speed around 6.2 to 6.5 mph as they like the lure moving. When you see something in the water, make a pass at it, but not too close as to drive them down, turn the boat as to swing the lures close to the object after you pass it by that way the lure is close but the boat doesn't spook them. Once you get one hooked, slow the boat to a slow troll (clutch speed) and have another rod ready with a bucktail, small plug or some bally chunks. Leave the first fish on the line as the others will chase it in. You can hook the others up and have a blast, but remember you can demolish a school if you get too greedy. If they start moving off, just throw some bait chunks out to draw them back in.

The lures I prefer are Rattle Jets in pink, purple, blue and white and green and yellow. Another good lure is the Little Bubbler, it leaves a really good smoke trail (bubbles) and as in the Rattle Jets, use the same colors. I like to put a small bird inline with the bait to make some commotion and draw them to the lure. Vary your distance behind the boat until you find what works best. I would also suggest that you have a jointed plug in PINK, for some odd reason they love Pink Plugs better than any other color.

Have fun and eat hardy!!!
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Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We stopped at one floating 5 gallon bucket a couple years ago and caught 68 and let about 20 go!

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